Goodbye Eternity
Bad endings
Hi everyone!
I hope you're all doing well, thank you to everyone who took part in the latest poll!
Thanks to your input, Asami will finally get a storyline that does her justice. I’m not exactly sure when we’ll include it, but I’ll ask for your feedback when the time comes.
Today, I’d like to talk about something else that’s really important: bad endings.
A visual novel with choices is great, but if those choices don’t really change anything in the end, it can leave a bit of a bitter taste…
Would you be interested in seeing this kind of game mechanic?
For example:
- If you had decided to ignore Yasuka’s problems,
- If the conflict with Noriko had never been resolved,
- Or if you had completely rejected Asami instead of becoming friends with her…
- Etc
These kinds of decisions could lead to darker outcomes. Of course, that would mean including some unpleasant scenes, but it would also bring more tension to the game — a bad choice could have serious consequences.
What do you think?
The poll related to the possibility of adding bad ends will take place on PAtreon and SubscribeStar
P.S.: We’re a little behind on version 0.11… With a bit of luck, it should be ready by the end of April!
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Yes! Bad endings are a good thing if you want your story to have choices that matter.
Bad Endings are a wonderful idea, no matter what form they take (NTR, deaths, breakups, etc.). But I do think that if you decide to add it, you'll have to put a warning for the "mentally fragile" people. For example, if a certain choice branches into a bad end that has NTR, put a NTR warning in for that specific choice, or make it extremely obvious that the choice will lead to a bad outcome. It might spoil the surprise or endings for some people, so I think there should be an option in the settings to toggle the warnings on or off depending on the player.
I would love for ntr bad ends to happen, but i know my fellow players of this game, so that will never happen. So, yes bad endings should be added, but i also think neutral ones should be added too.
just dont add ntr
I'm fine with how you describe the "bad ending" idea. I think that, depending on how the player makes his choices, it makes sense that even by the end of part one, a bad ending can be achieved. My only problem was that it is usually. This just gives an excuse to add NTR and other similar tags that I hopefully will never be in this game.
I don't like bad endings, but I do like endings where the mc is more of an asshole or straight up sadist towards antagonist characters I don't like.
I think bad endings can come later when you practically finished the whole story already, let us be the "Hero" first and then when the game is at is last stage, start adding all the bad endings so the full game can have everything.
yes you're right
nah I think the bad ending should just be an additional option in the setting as a side story because this is a game where most people only pay attention to the good ending and I also don't like the bad ending style, it sounds like NTR somehow.
Yea sure, lets just have nothing but happy endings. Those dont exist in real life and i think having choices with conseqeunces should be a thing. It would add realism and make the story more interesting. So i say lets have the choices we make actualy mean something. Too many games present you with :choices: that ultimately mean nothing and have zero effect on the story at all.
If thats what you prefer then the dev should remove all choice entirely and make this a "movie" or whatever instead with zero input form the player.
I'm not sure about bad endings, the freedom would be nice I guess but none of the choices offered seem like things anyone would want to do. It seems like just an excuse to see characters I like be tortured or whatever. But ultimately it would depend on how it's done I guess? And I probably wouldn't engage with most of it anyway so it's probably up to other people to decide.
Ye sbad endings and choices that actually mean something and change the story in real ways should be a thing. Otherwise the dev should remove all player input entirely and have only one path thtru the story that you have NO say in.
also take some rest :)
what's rest exactly
KILL THEM
No bad ends, just True Harem route please
What about both? We want bad ends and you want harem route, why can both sides win?
Сами по себе "плохие концовки" замечательная тема! Притом что в новеллах сложно с ними напортачить, но даже так, главным моментом будет "реализация" этих самых Bad ends
"Bad ends" in themselves are a wonderful topic! Despite the fact that it's difficult to mess them up in novels, even so, the main point will be the "realization" of these - Bad ends
So I'll be honest here there's already a lot of tension with some of the buildup in this game and while I understand the idea of consequences I also feel like this is a bad move, at least right now because as I'm sure most people can agree they would rather see the completion of the "normal" story and want to feel like the "hero". I would recommend that the bad endings be made as a poll to gauge the player interest and then from there you could decide to greenlight it or not.
Then the dev should remove all player input instead. Make all choices for the player and be done with it. Lets be real, the MCs in all these games are pretty much worthless weak losers who would never be able to get a girl or change anything anyway. So reaiistically, this game's story SHOULD have bad endings instead of good ones because the MC doesnt have any real power. He would nevr be able to help anyone or save anyone. Thats not how it works in real life. So im 100% for bad endings. Much more realistic IMO.
I agree with you honestly but the MC in this case literally does have a power. He went back in time or had a reset and with that he has the power of foresight to be able to prevent or outright change history. That as a power alone is already incredible but it's not omnipotent as it's one flaw is once you change something you're effectively in unknown territory but that doesn't mean you couldn't still plan or prepare for things. Also the concept that not having any real strength being solely attributed to physicals prowess (as I think you mean, if I'm wrong I'm wrong) is just kinda a weak argument.
That all being said, i also really wana see a "good" ending where Sakuya brutally murders tha fat pig who ran the coffee shop for all the shit he tried to do to Yasaka and is apparently gboing to do to Asami.
Id have to say its good to have , like you stated adds more impact. The biggest thing to me as some one whos read multiple VN , you want it to be be a story . To have impact and geowth as make commection to the character and story. I think aome people forget jist cause it uas h/sex scenes doesnt mean its only a sex game. Of course we as fans have some sway, though as creators and developers of this VN just make sure proud of the final outcome.
Ps. A good example to me of a VN with bad ends that has H scenes is like G senjo no mou. Or maybe like aaya no uta. Great in their syory and impactful in their bad ends/other endings
I play for bad endings
Tbh it feels to me like a waste of resources. I dont think anyone is playing to get those endings. At the end of the day its a porn game. People play for the scenes and to develop relationships with the characters. Putting dev time and art asset creation into that would just detract from the overall quality of the parts of the game that people actually play for.
Well and as another person suggested, having one bad ending and it being macumba crushing the MCs head with his thighs as a joke bad end. That'd just be funny.
Idea is fine, but make sure that its clear which choices will lead to bad endings, and not tricking players with ambiguious choices.
But I'd rather open up the player to more positive endings instead and see the effort going there, so more things like femdem maledom with Noriko, I'd rather see more things like that, positive paths with different experiences
I'd welcome NTR :D
I totally agree, but too bad, that won't happen
yep, and honestly probably for the better. If RNGeus really did add it his "fans" would bully the shit out of him
Personaly i would love it, it might be sad and else, and maybe it'll be horrible, but when choices have an impâct like that it's way more immersive, hope it'll be a positive outcome